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The Truth is out there 真相就在那裡

Updated: Apr 22, 2020


(Please scroll down for Chinese translation 繁体中文请往下滑).


A Facebook post from a late-30-something working professional that was uploaded to Reddit on 6th October 2019 (or thereabouts):


LONG POST WARNING – longest and perhaps the most personal post ever because the situation calls for it. In the fourth month, the Protestors have officially become the Resistance, and as each day passes the rift gets deeper and wider. Let me begin by saying that while I disagree with (and in no way I am excusing) some of the more extreme violent actions by a segment of the more radical protestors, at the end of the day one has to pick a side at times like this, and the only choice is to stand with the people of Hong Kong. By the way, I really do like China in general, having had many business and leisure trips there.


As a working middle class, sorely dependent on my job and carrying a rediculously expensive property mortgage in HK and who stands to lose everything if the economy goes to shit, I too wish nothing but for this saga to end as quickly as possible, but I don’t think the government will be able to do so by literally beating and scaring its people into submission, not at least without great cost to the core values of Hong Kong; and as I sat here in my peaceful home with my beautiful wife and very young babies, hundreds of thousands of Hong Kongers have been marching on in resistance - - I couldn’t be there but my heart is with my people - - many more people have gotten arrested and may lose years of their future, some have gotten permanently disfigured, lost limbs or other aspects of their health permanently, and it is likely eventually that a few may die within the coming days if things continue as they are - - the least I can do is to spit out some truths as I see it (which I think the government ought to acknowledge publicly if they hope to find a way out):


1. The Resistance (1 to 2 million+ people) is not composed of a singular type of the HK people with the exact same political views - - but they understand that the only way to survive is to put aside their differences.


2. Vast majority of the Resistance is not asking for independence but a high degree of autonomy, (you will see State propaganda machine up playing this to invoke the "HK is a part of China" notion);


3. The government would like people to believe that it is just the naïve young people, rebels without a cause, the poor, the underachievers and radicals in their attempt to marginalise the Resistance, while in fact it’s also doctors, nurses, bankers, engineers, businessmen and people from all walks of life; it’s truly a cross-generational, social class transcendent grassroot movement;


4. Stop obsessing with foreign influence/funding conspiracy theories - - you are dealing with a resourceful, well-educated, technology savvy populace that has liberal ideals based on decades of exposure and knows better to think for itself rather than listen to your shit;


5. Overwhelmingly the most serious injuries (with permanent damages) have been inflicted by pro-police thugs and the police themselves, while the quantum and magnitude of the injuries sustained by the pro-government camp just pales in comparison;


6. The protestors have not robbed or stolen property or murdered or raped, while there are plenty of rumours the other way;


7. The vandalism (which again, I disagree with) is at least targeted;


8. The average citizen fears not the protestors but the police; you can see police brutality and arbitrary arrests on live feed;


9. You cannot fairly expect a movement spearheaded by thousands of young people to be entirely orderly or not have some mistakes;


10. Ultimately, remember the context the distrust stems from the perceived unfairness of the system, because the people do not feel that the government officials (not democratically elected) represent them or are accountable to them.


With thanks to "Working Professional"



Explanation about the image attached to this article: The HK Police have acknowledged that some Police officers are "undercover" without explaining their role or responsibilities. These officers are not identifying themselves to protesters who are then being beaten or arrested. There are numerous accounts of undercover Police officers involved in illegal activities. This photo appears to show an undercover Policeman carrying a gun holding a petrol bomb. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!




[Update] 21 April 2020 RTHK Police officer arrested 'over petrol bomb plot'


A 38-year-old police officer has been arrested in the Sau Mau Ping area on suspicion of perverting the course of justice.


The case has been referred to the New Territories North Regional Crime Unit.


Media reports said the police are investigating if the arrested officer was involved in a case linked to suspected petrol bombs outside Kwai Chung Police Station.


In the April 13 incident, a suspect who allegedly carried the bombs was arrested.


Reports say the officer was in contact with the suspect before the incident.


The police said they attach great importance to the conduct of personnel and anyone who commits illegal acts will not be tolerated.


Link to Apple Daily report.



真相就在那裡


來自30多歲的上班族的Facebook帖子,於2019年10月6日(或其附近)上傳到Reddit:


長篇警告-最長的帖子,也許是最私人的帖子,因為情況需要。在第四個月,抗議者正式成為抵抗軍,並且隨著日子的流逝,裂痕變得越來越深。首先,我要說的是,儘管我不同意(絕不是我的意思),但部分激進抗議者採取了一些更為極端的暴力行動,但總之,最後人們還是必須做出選擇,而唯一的選擇,就是與香港人民站在一起。順便說一句,我真的很喜歡中國,因為我在那裡有過很多商務和休閒旅行。


作為一個工作的中產階級,我非常依賴我的工作,並在香港背負著昂貴的房地產抵押貸款,如果經濟不景氣,我將失去一切,我也只希望這個戲劇盡快結束,但是我認為政府不會通過毆打和恐嚇使其人民屈服於政府,至少在不損害香港核心價值的前提下;當我與美麗的妻子和很小的嬰兒們坐在和平的家中時,成千上萬的香港人一直在抵抗中前進--我不能在那裡,但我的心與我的人民同在--更多的人已被逮捕並可能失去多年的前途,有些人永久毀容,永久喪失肢體或其他健康狀況,如果事情繼續下去,最終少數人有可能在未來幾天內死亡--至少我能做的是吐出一些我所看到的真理(我認為政府應該公開承認這幾點,如果他們希望找到一條出路):


1.抵抗軍(1至200萬+人)不是由政治觀點完全相同的單一類型的香港人組成,但他們知道,生存的唯一方法就是拋開分歧。


2.絕大多數反抗派不是要求獨立,而是要求高度自治(你會看到國家的宣傳機器在發揮這種作用,以援引“香港是中國的一部分”的概念);


3.政府希望人們相信,他們只是天真的年輕人,無緣無故的叛軍,窮人,後進生和激進分子,試圖將抵抗運動邊緣化,而事實上,它也是醫生,護士,銀行家,工程師,商人和各界人士;這是真正的跨代,社會階層的超越基層運動;


4.不再沉迷於外國影響力/資金共謀理論--您正在與一個足智多謀,受過良好教育,精通技術的平民打交道,這些平民基於數十年的接觸而擁有自由主義的理想,並且知道自己思考而不是傾聽你的狗屎;


5.絕大多數時候,親警察的暴徒和警察本身造成了最嚴重的傷害(有永久性損害),而親政府營地所遭受的傷害的數量和程度卻相形見;;


6.示威者沒有搶劫或偷竊財產或謀殺或強姦,反之則有很多謠言。


7.破壞行為(我再次不同意)至少是針對性的;


8.普通市民不怕抗議者,而怕警察。您可在現場直播上看到警察的暴行和濫捕;


9.您不能公平地期望由成千上萬的年輕人帶頭的運動完全井然有序或沒有任何錯誤。


10.歸根結底,請記住背景下的不信任是由於人們認為系統的不公平所致,因為人們不覺得政府官員(不是民主選舉產生的)代表他們或對他們負責。



感謝“專業工作人員”


A man with a gun, mask and petrol bomb - undercover Police?

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